The Art of Saying ‘No’. An interview with Jen Panaro.

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The episode in a nutshell:

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Why is it important to say no? How do we get comfortable saying no?

On today’s episode we discuss how to reject single-use plastics + ‘convenient options’ detrimental to the environment.

We rethink the status quo with regard to overscheduling, commitments, everything mainstream + everything  in between.

“It’s OK to slow down. It’s OK to relax. It’s OK to let some things go.”

Practical first steps:

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Take small steps.

Take easy steps.

Look to minimalist gurus as inspirations, not as guides. 

With children:

• Limit extracurriculars.

• Adopt the mantra: “Different family have different rules.”

• Redirect whenever possible.

• Remember that – sometimes – it’s OK to just say no.

Notable quotes from the episode:

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“I give my kids a choice but do so within guardrails that I think are OK.”

“Sometimes I say no; sometimes I say yes.”

“We have a principle in our house: Different families have different rules.”

“Making life changes is like picking fruit from a fruit tree. You start with the low-hanging fruit: you start with what’s easy + over time you move on to the next step + start reaching for the fruit that’s a bit higher. You don’t go for the top apples first.”

“In taking small steps we have the opportunity to reflect at each crossroad + ask, ‘Is this serving me well? Is this working for us? Do we need to make some modifications?'”

“Rethinking the status quo means reflecting on whether or not that’s what you want + whether it’s just the easy answer.”

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